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Yes, but I haven't found a way to use them for navigation yet.

So here's a rough explanation of my "tool-chain":

1. Create Track (e.g. @ www.bikeroutetoaster.com) --> get .gpx-file
2. Open file with RouteConverter (http://www.routeconverter.de/webstart/en)
3. Change Type from "Track" to "Waypoints"
4. Save file as "Haicom Logger (.csv)" (Don't ask why...I just figured out that it works...)
5. Open the .csv-file with diggerQT (see this forum)
6. Use the default coordinate system and select the right columns for latitude and longitude
7. There's a little catch: The "Next"-button is grayed out on the screen where you can choose how the POIs are displayed on the map. Double-click on the word "test" and select an image (.png or .ico).
8. Convert the file and copy the output to your Navigator FREE folder
9. The points should now be marked with the selected image in the map.

Sounds complicated, but works for me.

Please let me know, if you need further help.

Thank you for the update, mdx.
In the special case of me using bikeroutetoaster it doesn't help that much, since the saved gpx-files contain tracks, not points. So I still have to convert them. But that's not the fault of digger11..

Could I ask wwwindisch: 

In your step 8: "Convert the file and copy the output to your Navigator FREE folder"

I've read elsewhere that it should be copied to

"C:\\Documents and Settings\All Users\Application Data\MapFactor\Setup\Data\Images" where the file poi.mca resides. Is this the one you mean?

In your step 9: "The points should now be marked with the selected image in the map."

Do you not have to go to Import and click on the name of your file? Does Navigator find and load them without being told to?

Your help would be much appreciated (see my thread about Navigator Free crashing).

Paul

Hi Paul,

big SORRY! I forgot to mention the main point: I'm talking about NavigatorFree for Windows CE5 (NOT the version for desktop PCs); I'm running it on my CarTrek 700 satnav.

@ micpennett & ciprian:
I suppose bikemap.net gives you a gps TRACK. Have you converted the track to waypoints (steps 3 & 4)? I got the same error when I tried to process a track with diggerQT.
The detour via the .csv file (step 4) is a bit strange, but it works for me. And there is a big advantage about it: You can open the .csv file with MS Excel and take a look at the data. You should see a table, which contains (besides other data) the two columns "longitude" and "latitude".

If you still have problems, please let me know...I can come up with a more detailed tutorial, if necessary.

Cheers

I've done a little tutorial with Screenr:

Part 1: http://screenr.com/l8A8
Part 2: http://screenr.com/L8A8

Sorry for the "German-English" ;-)
Please share your experiences with the conversion of tracks...

Just to make sure I got you right: You converted the NMEA to CSV and then with digger to MCA-files and copied them to your device? And digger completed successfully but your device didn't recognize the way-points?
Here is the sample route I'd used for the tutorial:
https://docs.google.com/open?id=0B3mn3vikyLIfU29BX3VucnQ3cE0

You can try to copy the file to your NavigatorFree folder and zoom the map to the big park about 1km south-east of the center of Dresden/Germany. There the track should become visible...

@mdx: The import of POIs should work the same way for all NavigatorFree installations on WinCE5, regardless of the actual device, right?

@ wwwindisch :
First of all : thank you for this idea of "importing" gpx-tracks as waypoints using routeconverter ( saving in  "Haicom Logger (.csv)" format" )
But be aware :
This solution seems to work only with N(orth) and E(ast)  latitude / longitude coordinates,
because digger expects ( WGS84 ) coordinates as "signed" values :
The latitude and longitude are represented in signed degrees. For the sign, "+" is assigned to the north latitude and east longitude,
while "-" is assigned to the south latitude and west longitude. "+" may be omitted.
So waypoints with coordinates within the southern / western hemisphere will be "missinterpreted" by digger
due to the missing leading "-" sign in the saved "Haicom Logger (.csv)"file !
This is not a "routeconverter" issue ( Haicom Logger seems to use the nnn.nn,S nnn.nn,W  notation of coordnates and not the "signed" notation ... )

Hello all,

i've been trying to add a waypointlist as track to my NavigatorFree, mostly like wwwindisch explained.
That means, I imported as waypoint-gpx into diggerQT, made a doubleclick onto "test" and added a 64x64 sized ico in blue to all records.
But when I try to look at the track on my maps in NavigatorFree, I can't see it.
Yes, the <track>.mca is located on my Navi and in the menupoint "settings" - "maps" - "select regions" it is activated in the section "all imports".

What's going wrong? Which size has the icon to be? Is it to big or to small?
Which data source type do I have to select in diggerQT? user data or speed cameras?
Which source column do I have to select? Map or Table? name, comment, description, class_type, elevation, time or symbol_name? All or none?

Please help.

So, I think, I've found the problem.
I supose, that diggerQT makes a reading-mistake, but I'm not sure.

In my waypoint-gpx-files (created with RouteConverter) the coordinates are listed like this:

...
<wpt lon="6.108203997" lat="50.744936988">
    ...
</wpt>
...
This point (above) is near Somalia in the sea.

When I now change the position of lon and lat in the file like this:

...
<wpt lat="50.744936988" lon="6.108203997">
    ...
</wpt>
...
lon and lat have still the same value but an other position in the file - this point in Navigator Free is exactly there, where is has to be - in Aachen, Germany.

So, does diggerQT evalute the values of lat and lon or does it reads the first comming value as lat and the second as lon, without looking to the key/attribute lon or lat?

With greatings from Germany

Hi,

Just a note ... digger ver12 will be able to import also lines and areas, but at the moment you can see the result imports only in Android version. If you would like to try/test it, let me know.
thanks
   Martin
p.s. i.e. I can confirm what "crocodilefarm" is saying about points/lines

Sorry, I forgot: I use Navigator FREE on Android 2.3. 

Hi Martin,

because I have a WinCE-based Navi-System, I'm looking forward to the digger-version, that will come after version 12 and perhaps will work with Windows / WinCE.

Until that, I convert my gpx-files (create with RouteConverter) with an own programmed simple-simple Java-Tool, so that lat and lon will stay in correct position.

Greatings

Guys! What the hell? Something as basic importing a route shouldn't be such a hassle!
I usually plan my routes on gpsies.com and want to import them to Navigator(WMo). I usually end up with reclicking the route in the PC Version... I just tried editing the routing_points.xml, but that fails as well.
Using digger would be nice. If it worked. Via CSV, as described above, i get only useless points,because the data is recognized as icons. Importing a GPX route looks good (recognized as line) until I run it. Then I get the already mentioned "all objects were banned, no data to import...".
???
Why don't you just put an import function for gpx on the device? Then we could download tracks directly from the net.
Anyway, many thanks for navigating me through Crimea last week. Excellent map coverage.