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Fratzfelix

I don´t know since when it was changed, but with 3.0.90 I can´t move under "MY PLACES"
"MY FAVOURITES" by holding und moving. I can only hold and tip "Move up"
or "Move down". In "MY ROUTES" I can hold and move the route up and
down. In "GPS RECORDING" I can´t move them anyway!? I know that
"FAVOURITES" have worked before the way "ROUTES" work now.
New favourites
are put always to the end of the list. Therefore it is much better to
hold and move instead of hold an tip "Move up" many times to get the
favourite to the top.
I know I can sort them with A-Z or Z-A, but that is not the same. I want the favourites sorted the way I use them often!!

tomas

please check android settings/accessibility/vision
if off, then you can drag, if on, you get menu

Fratzfelix

Hi tomas,
thanks for answer, but that can´t be the reason.
It has been the other way before and it works with "MY ROUTES" but does nor work with "MY FAVORITES"!?

tomas

well, I tried it and developer was correct - not implemented in My routes
not sure why you don't try it

Fratzfelix

Sorry, don´t understand, my english is not so good:
Try WHAT? Do you mean try to change the android settings? I have Android 6.0.1. What do I have to change?
I have many submenues in vision!?
But why should the developer make a difference in moving the points between "MY FAVOURITES" and "MY ROUTES"?? And I know, that this constellation has change before. I know definitely that I could move the favourites by hold and move in "MY FAVOURITES" last year!!!

tomas

in Android settings go to Accessibility, then Vision and disable it
move up, move down, is for users with bad eyesight

Fratzfelix

In Android settings - Accessibility - Vision I have the following Submenues:
"Dark Screen" grey can´t be changed
"Rapid key input" grey can´t be changed
"Speak password" grey can´t be changed
"Font size"
"High contrast fonds"
"Magnification gestures"
"Notification reminder"
"Negative colours"
"Colour adjustment"
"Accessibility shortcut"
"Text-to-speech options"

What do I have to change??

tomas

on first line I have Switch Access
Android 6.0.1

Fratzfelix

I would like to sent you my screenshots to show you what I see, but I don´t know how to sent a png!?

tomas

by email?

Fratzfelix

How ever.
I have seen in other discussions, that there are screenshots in the comments, how did they manage that?
Copy and paste does not work, too many characters.

Oldie

You will have to upload images to a server like www.fotos-hochladen.net. There you get a link, which you can insert into to field klicking on the "Insert Image" icon in the editing menu of a post.

Fratzfelix

tomas, here are my screenshots

Fratzfelix

https://www.dropbox.com/s/2pqyz4803xfiyx9/Screenshot_2017-04-20-16-57-31.png?dl=0

https://www.dropbox.com/s/kqb3m93xmw5gjxk/Screenshot_2017-04-20-16-57-25.png?dl=0

tomas

I do not know, may be under Manage accessibility?
on my Samsung it is on the first line

Fratzfelix

I don´t find that settings. Could you send a screenshot of your settings?
I tried with a Samsung S3 mini Android 4.2.2 there it works with "MY FAVOURITES". I can hold and move the favourites and the routes!!
On an Samsung Tab 4 with Android 5.0.2 it does not work, ther I can only hold and move the routes, as on my Samsung S5!?
All three have the latest Version 3.0.103.

tomas

https://drive.google.com/file/d/0BySR4mW9PHfWbndOVE54TjU3VXc/view?usp=sharing

Fratzfelix

Now I got that setting! The reason was, that I deactivated "TALKBACK", because I thought I wouldn´t need it.
Now I could set the "Switch access" to "On".
But that changed nothing in Navigator. I can´t hold and move in "MY FAVOURITES", only in "MY ROUTES"!!??

tomas

it should be off

Fratzfelix

YES!!!
Thank you very much!!

Fratzfelix

Hi tomas,

now I got a new Smartphone with Android 10 und have Navigator 6.0.233.

Here I got the same problem as described above. I can hold and move "MY PLACES" but not "FAVOURITES"!?

Do you know a solution?

Best regards

tomas

favourites and my places is the same thing, isn't it?

Fratzfelix

Sorry,

I meant in "MY PLACES", I can hold and move "MY ROUTES", but not "FAVOURITES"!?

tomas

it works as it should for me

not sure why it doesn't for you, possibly some Android settings - in old Android it happened when visually impaired settings was on

2highlander

I can confirm this misbehavior. In My Places, items in My Routes can be moved by drag and drop, whereas in Favorites, trying to drag an item opens a dialog which, among other options, offers to move the item up or down.

Don't know if it's a bug or a feature, also from formerly versions, I don't know any other behaviour. It's a kind of beauty mistake which is not essential to survive with MFN in the outbacks ;)

tomas

this is not bug, it is feature for visually impaired

please check your Android settings

Fratzfelix

Just to understand: where is the difference between "FAVOURITES" ans "MYPLACES"?

Both are xml. files: "favourites.xml" and "routing_points.xml" and I could change the sorting in an editor.

What has this to do with visually impaired settings?

As you can see in my former notes, I found a correction on my old Samsung S5 as I activated "TALKBACK"!? Then I could see and change the "Switch access".

Now on my new A40, I installed TALKBACK, but found no switch to make a change!?

And has someone an idea, where I can look for them in Android 10, Samsung A40?? German version?

2highlander: I agree, it not essential, but I have about 10 "normal" favourites. Now I planned a holiday with several overnight stays, which I want to have at the top of my favourite list for the next weeks. But every new favourite goes to the end of the favourite list an I have to move each of them manually to the top.

Even with 10 existing favourites it means 10 times clicking and moving up with 15 favourites means together 150 times clicking and moving!!! It could be much much easier with holding and moving.

tomas

I can replicate this when I set voice assistant on in accessibility/screen reader (Android 10)

Fratzfelix

But with voice assistant on I can´t use the phone...

tomas

not sure what do you mean, I wrote that it should be switched off to drag favourites

Fratzfelix

It was switched off but does not drag favourites.

tomas

then it is some other settings, something to do with accessibility I would think

Uli

Just for information:
XIAOMI Redmi Note 4, Android 10, Navigator 6.0.233
Dragging My Places works here all ok

2highlander

I never understood the different behavior of Favourites/My Routes. What behavior ever, it would make more sense if both would behave in the same way ...

Galaxy S5 and S9+, both voice assi off, same behavior. My Routes is dragdrop, Favourites are not.

Uli

As you mentioned Samsung Galaxys, I also checked my S4, Android 10, Navigator 6.0.233, same Android settings.
Moving Favourites by dragging does NOT work on this device. Just clicking and moving up 1 step.
Same LineageOS version 17.1 as my Xiaomi where everything works.
For me that seems to be also device dependent.
Very strange.

Edit: checking Sony M4 Aqua, Android 6.01 Sony Std, Navigator 6.0.228 and 233, all works ok

Fratzfelix

NOT working on Samsung A40, Android 11, UI-Version 3.1, Navigator 7.055

NOT working on Samsung S5, Android 9, Lineage 16.0, Navigator 7.055

NOT working on Samsung S5 mini, Android 6.0.1, Navigator 7.055

tomas

please email support with details, your description is far too vague

Fratzfelix

See my first statement from April 2017!!

Fratzfelix

Or the discussion of October 2020

tomas

please send your route with waypoints, then we can check what the problem is

Fratzfelix

?

tomas

we have not received anything from you

MacDony

Hi Fratzfelix,

To solve your problem, you can rename your favorites with a number in front of the name in the desired order like:

01-Uli

02-Tomas

03-MacDony

04-Fratzfelix

...

10-Zoo

11-Etc

and then organize the display with the A-Z function

;)

Denis

Fratzfelix

MacDony: That doesn´t help me. If I have 10 older favorites, and I plan another route with 5 new favorites, they are all at the bottum of the column. To get them to the top, I would have to rename all of them!!

Because the old 10 have:

1

2

3

...

The new ones I have to rename :

1

2

3

...

but before that I have to rename the old ones to

6

7

8

...

How should that work practically?

Fratzfelix

tomas:

I want to move my favourites under "MY PLACES"
"MY FAVOURITES" by holding und moving. I can only hold and tip "Move up"
or "Move down". In "MY ROUTES" I can hold and move the route up and
down. In "GPS RECORDING" I can´t move them anyway!?

New favourites are put always to the end of the list. Therefore it is much better to
hold and move instead of hold an tip "Move up" many times to get the
favourite to the top.
I know I can sort them with A-Z or Z-A, but that is not the same. I want the favourites sorted the way I use them often!!

As you can see above, you wrote that you could replicate it by setting voice assistant on in accessibility/screen reader, but I have it off!

And Uli said that it works on XIAOMI Redmi Note 4, Android 10, Navigator 6.0.233, but it does NOT work on

Samsung Galaxy S4, Android 10, Navigator 6.0.233.

higlander said it does NOT work on his Galaxy S5 and S9+

So there must be a fault depending on the hardware!!??

tomas

I think this is dependent on Android accessibility settings

in old Android version it was visually impaired, it may be called something else in Android 10

MacDony

Ok in this case, you can rename your points according to the route A or B or C

A01-

A02-

A03-

and

B01

B02

then

C01

C02

etc ...

or even create a folder of favorite waypoints for each trip.

;)

Fratzfelix

tomas:

I tried all settings in accessibility settings, nothing works!!

And please try to explain, why it works with "MY ROUTES" and not with "MY FAVOURITES"!??

And why I cannot move "GPS RECORDINGS" anyway?

There must be a difference in the program-code!?

Fratzfelix

MacDony:

And then? What about my next trip?

Changing A to B, B to C, C to D, just to make a new A?

That´s not the way, because I know that it worked before and it works on other hardware!

tomas

@Fratzfelix

you need to restart Navigator when you change Android settings

I can replicate your problem when switching Accessibility Menu shortcut on (A11), but it could be also another settings

Fratzfelix

I know that I have to restart Navigator!

What Menu shortcut do you mean?

Under Acessibility I have the following points:

-Recommended for you

-Talkback

-Visibility enhancements

--Hearing enhancements

-Interaction and dexterity

-Advanced settings

-Installed services

I think, I have all settings off.

I have Samsung One UI Version 3.1, Android 11. What UI do you have?

Maybe native Google has other settings?

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