No more access to data-folder??? (Android 11+12)
  • Hallo,

    I have a new (used) Pixel 3a. Its my first "unrooted" Android.
    I cant find the "data-Folder" for the Mapdata. The 3a has only an internal storage.
    In /storage/emulated/0/android/data/com.mapfactor.navigator/files is nothing:


    The access to other folders works fine (i.e. Locus maps):


    Download of mapdata works fine, but WHERE are the data? (because I want to copy my individual ocm-files in)

    ???

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  • android/data/com.mapfactor.navigator/files/navigator/data

  • YES, "android/data/com.mapfactor.navigator/files/navigator/data" is the folder on my old, rootet Android7-Device.

    As I already said: There are no (visible) Data. "Files" is an empty folder


    I think there is a problem with access-rights in MF (better: the moment while installation, when the folders are created)! In other programm-folders (like LocusMaps) I have FULL right to read and write.

    Without the possibility of using self-created favorites or mca-files, MF is almost useless for me.
  • please send logs from settings/advanced, then we can give you exact location
  • Here is one line from the logs, where a folder is mentioned:

    2021-12-29 20:09:21: File greece_osm.mca download succeeded to /data/user/0/com.mapfactor.navigator/files/navigator/data, stored version: -1, server version: 202112140, download time: 30 secs

    In Android 11+12 Users without root dont have access to these files. So please program MF so, that the files will be stored in android/data/com.mapfactor.navigator/!
  • even no chance with ADB-Debugging


    And there will be more people having this problem....
  • developers cannot install anywhere else then Google dictates, it would not pass Google check
  • Maybe you can call the developers from LocusMaps. THEY have the skills to do that.... (see my screenshot above)

    android/data/.... is possible!

    Locus chooses android/data/menion.android.locus/files/Locus with full access for users.


    MF choose /data/user/0/com.mapfactor.navigator/files/navigator/data. I dont know why...
  • I think Locus was installed before changes to Android, I also have Navigator Pro in accessible folder, but not the standard version, which I uninstalled and reinstalled

    I have Android 9 and thought I would be safe to access installation folder - unfortunately I uninstalled Navigator and installed again, it went to /data/user/0/com.mapfactor.navigator/files/navigator/data

    strangely I have not upgraded Android for 8 months!!!

    and I tried to install Navigator 4, 5, 6 and 7 - all went to folder data/user/0/com.mapfactor.navigator/files/navigator/data
  • I installed both, Locus and MFN, today on a plain, factory-reset-device!

    Locus-developers programmed to use the "android/data/"-folder, So, it is possible. MF had just to programm it "right".

    For me, the great advantage of MF was, that I could create OWN mca files (for travel). If that is no longer possible, I have to say unfortunately "bye navigator"
    :-q 
  • PS: If MF dont have the "skills" to programm this user-friendly, then MF should at least provide an internal "file browser" in the navigator, with which one has access to the data directory!
  • well, not sure how you managed that
    I just installed Locus and it is in folder which I cannot access
  • Is it in folder "android/data/" with no access? Then you can use X-Plore,then its possible
  • Another tipp: you can choose in locus-settings the folder. So you can select here an accessable folder
  • I can see all when I select private folder, I will ask developers
  • I have now tried to at least take over the "settings" from my old mobile phone (favorites, vehicle profiles, ...). I was able to create a backup in GoogleDrive with my old mobile phone (it can then also be selected for restoring on THIS mobile phone).

    On the NEW mobile phone the message "Download of the backup files not available" appears. When I choose "Backup" on the new mobile phone, "Backup created on GoogleDrive" and then "Cannot create a backup folder" comes up.

    Internet connection exists, Google account has been set up.

    When I log in GoogleDrive I cant see MF-Backups anywhere - Sorry, I'm really "pissed" now

  • one way to do it is to move Navigator to SD, insert SD in PC, backup your files and then you can move Navigator back
  • Google Pixel-Phones have no SD-card. Just an "built-in-memory". So this is NOT a solution
  • you can use USB stick
  • I don't think you understood the problem.

    What exactly should I do with the USB stick? OTG? OK, I can READ files from USB stick via OTG. And then? Where to PASTE in the files? The User of Android 11 + 12 has no write access to the directory used for navigator by MF!

    AGAIN: There is only ONE thing that the developers of MFN has to do: Built in a function, to select the data- and setting-folder MANUALLY within the app. So everybody could choose an folder with write-permissions. And dont say "thats not possible". In LocusMaps it is!
  • PS: And what could be the problem with "Download of the backup files not available" respectively "Cannot create a backup folder".
    GoogleDrive is currently the only chance for me to use MFN.
  • open Navigator and go to settings > Map manager
    move Navigator to USB
    close Navigator and copy your .mca files and favourites... to USB
    then insert open Navigator again and move Navigator back to internal storage

    it worked for everybody as far as I know
  • No, dont work. See screenshot:


    USB-Device is available:

  • So, I've now installed OSMAnd. "Lo and behold", they too manage to save all data in accessible directories.
    The problem with switching to a different software is always the "familiarization phase". But once you've done that, a return is unlikely ... Bye bye
  • I don't know why it does not work for you, but I do not have Android 12 to test

    as to Locus and Osmand - developers think that they use old API, which will at some point expire and they will be forced to use new one, meaning that folders will not be accessible

    good news is, that we will do something about it, so please be patient
  • "good news is, that we will do something about it, so please be patient"

    Thanx for this. But the "clock is ticking" :)
  • Hoping my old Device will working along time. The first senseless changes was the No access to the SD-Card. Developers found solutions for this problem. No Access for config folders for users seems to be a new Android-Feature. This is in my eyes a senseless Feature. Synchronization with the PC should work. Synchronization should just work with the map explorer and the map explorer should also be better sometimes.
    But i will be patient.
  • A little hint: with the "stock-explorer" you can actually not get into the directory amdroid/data (what tomas said!) , but if you use the X-Plore you have access. I use this app for many years so it I dont recognized that.
    So, if Navigator uses the android/data folder again, everything is OK (with a special file browser)
  • Important is the access via MTP and synchronisation with the PC. Moving Files with the Taschenrechner is nothing for me.
  • I have since bought Osmand. The route calculation is painfully slow. But it has many advantages and functions and can (at least for me) replace Navigator and Locus maps.

    AND: access to all data-folders
  • Search in the https://groups.google.com/g/osmand archives for my modified routing templates for OsmAnd based on midifications of the heuristic coefficient. They are 3 - 20 times faster and can be used for distances over 1500 km.
    Note though that not one single Nav app is as fast as MNF Navigator. Only a few OSRM apps are that fast but these are less flexible when it comes to using other profiles.
  • Thank you. I will check this

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