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Jochen_K

Hi,

I've just once again bumped into a problem I've encountered repeatedly before:

In areas where OSM coverage is a bit spotty, it is customary to at least mark the centre of a smallish settlement with a "place=hamlet" or "place=village" tag and its name.

Is there a way to find these places using Navigator's Search function?

Every time I try, I am shown the name of the village; I tap on that, and the next thing I see is the three sad faces telling me "no streets".

I then have to scroll around the map looking for that place name - or do I?

tomas

please give example

Jochen_K

Search...
Country: Ireland
Place names no. 3 , 4 , 5 , 9 , 10 , 11 , ...

tomas

I have Bray No 3, Dundalk No 3, Ennis No 3, Wexford No 3 and some others (in free maps)
similar for 4...

Jochen_K

That'S weird; when I tap on Ireland, I get...

13thLock (ok)
9 Mile Stone (ok)
Abartagh - Clasmore (No streets)
Abberanville - Raford ED (No streets)
Abbert - Abbey East ED (No streets)
Abbert Demesne - Abbey East ED (ok)
Abbey (..) (ok)
Abbey - Abbey West ED (ok)
Abbey - Kilflyn (No streets)

I had actually been looking for Omey in County Galway; it is listed as ...
Barnaronaun (Omey) - Bencorr ED (No streets)
Rusheen (Omey) - Sillerna ED (No streets)

hvdwolf

I do see the same.

Did you check openstreetmap;.org?

The "Abartagh - Clasmore (No streets)", "Abberanville - Raford ED (No streets)", "Abbert - Abbey East ED (No streets)" do indeed have no streets.

And if you would have checked Google Maps: the same.

wego.here.com doesn't even know the first and the second.

edit: sorry. forgot to add that indeed it doesn't seem possible to add it as destination (or departure).

Jan_Gruuthuse

And if you have Eircode like: D04 T6F4 for destination?
see: Eircode (Ireland)

hvdwolf

Eircode doesn't work.

Searching via Google does work as it simply "translates" to coordinates.

Jochen_K

Should one consider it a bug that Navigator is unable to show places from its own directory because it insists on being give a street to find?

hvdwolf

Yes, I consider it a bug.

Also because in Poland hamlets can have house numbers connected to hamlet name. Not to a street.

In Japan and Russia the addressing can work differently as well. By means of house blocks in grids.

I have no idea how Navigator handles those.

tomas

I passed it to developers

Jochen_K

Thanks - I hope they will find a solution.

lubos

Hi, those "villages" are polygons in OSM source. In our data structure it has not any coordinates. I suggested to filter this data but @tomas disagreed and others did not answer on it.

However I applied this filter in our new search engine which should be part of Android Navigator 4.0. My personal estimation for this release is Q2 2018.

Jochen_K

Oh - I see, my mistake: I simply took it for granted that those names would be linked to the "hamlet" icons on the map, without checking in OSM.
Most of them are, in fact, the Townlands that Irish enthusiasts have been entering into OSM for the past few years.
Still, it would be nice if Navigator could find them like OSM itself does.
Hoping for 2018, then.

jeremiahmendez

Try to use coordinates. It should help you

Jochen_K

In some cases coordinates might help, but not in mine - I had read something about Omey, Co. Galway, and was wondering whether it was close enough to the hotel I was staying in to make a visit worthwhile.

As I had no idea where in County Galway it is, I didn't have any coordinates to search for.

hurdygurdyman

I know Omey Island west of Clifden. Maybe Google might help.

Jochen_K

Thanks; you're right.
...and I did eventually find it - though not, unfortunately, through Navigator. :-(

...and sorry about the small letters - I forgot I didn't want to use Boat Browser any more,

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